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Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1967-10-22

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Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1967-10-22


Topics Live concert


Morning Dew, New Potato Caboose, It Hurts Me Too, Cold Rain And Snow, Turn On Your Lovelight, Beat It On Down The Line, Cryptical Envelopment > The Other One > Cryptical Envelopment


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Winterland Arena
Location San Francisco, CA

Source Soundboard
Lineage SBD > Rm > Cass > DAT (Sony TCD-D8) > CDR (Tascam CDRW700) > EAC (Plextor 48/24/48 - Secure Mode) > Samplitude v7.0 > SHN
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Transferred by Charlie Miller

Notes

-I used Samplitude to normalize the show and clean up some cuts.

-The previous circulating shn of this show has "No Noise" applied to it. Even though it was done with Sonic Solutions, it was NOT done by David Gans. I always felt that the "No Noise" version was a bit muddy. This copy has no noise reduction done to it, so it is much clearer.

-The levels in Morning Dew are all over the place. It is mostly due to the mix. I did not do anything to change this. The sound improves by the end of the song. I can only wonder what kind of drugs they were using at this show :)

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Reviews

Reviewer: cloudsplitter - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 22, 2016
Subject: une autre!
yeah this is where it's at. sounds like an owsley mix and that's great.
Reviewer: glynspsa - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 25, 2015
Subject: this is some primal
Stuff hot and psychedelic, New potato is awesome and like the early that's it for the other one with the alternate lyrics. This is some awesome heady stuff. As for this Quayle Obama debate Barak would roll him up and smoke him like a joint, not even close.
Reviewer: weironamissionfrombob - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 28, 2014
Subject: here comes the grateful dead
5 stars just because this exists. The transformation of their sound from 66-67 is extraordinary.
Reviewer: njpg - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 15, 2014
Subject: -
Nice Other One, & Lovelight.
Reviewer: chris phillips - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - September 21, 2013
Subject: better safe than sorry
Sedula,
Obama has been handling your mess. Hope you feel safer despite the food stamps. Best regards to you and Islam sucks.
Reviewer: lilrichwhiteboy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 14, 2013
Subject: Smilin' On A Cloudy Day?
Hey Steve, ya gotta finish the story. After The Boyz bull's-eyed the cop, Bobby decided to tempt fate and walked out of the apartment past him. A side glance with a big $h!t-eating grin didn't help much. After being hauled off to the hoosegow, our daring-do hero was invited to a little "Protect and Serve" hospitality. How did Bobby put it? "...They had a little fun with me."
Ah. The days of being young and insane. :-)
Reviewer: localloser - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 26, 2011
Subject: This show blows my mind
From beginning to end, this show is out there. The Morning Dew is hot, almost violent, and then New Potato Caboose, WOW!. I love what they do here. New Potato is one of my favorites. They were miles ahead of everyone else. My only disappointment with this show is the cut off of Lovelight, sounds like they were going into Alligator? Damn wish I had been there. Born 22 years too late. Nonetheless love listening to it now. Everyone at work thinks i'm weird, they don't understand. I've loved the Dead ever since my sister turned me on to them when I was 12 but only recently have I started listening to these shows. Now, studio music has no hold for me. What the Dead did is beyond compare.
Reviewer: clementinescaboose - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 4, 2010
Subject: WOW
If you listen to one show in 1967, listen to THIS.

Absolutely UNREAL jamming in New Potato Caboose (especially for this year). one of the best EVER. sure Jer stumbles a bit on a couple of the changes but at this point they were still working this song all out...

A nice bluesy Hurts Me Too follows, as well as very energetic versions of Lovelight and BIODTL.

And the first TOO suite is everything that's been said, an absolute beast..i mean, its almost twice as long as half the versions from '68!
Reviewer: casady - favoritefavoritefavorite - March 28, 2010
Subject: back to business & pleasure.
this recording, to me, represents a milestone achieved within the Grateful Dead contingency. I try to imagine the excitement of this era in their new found "wings"; Jerry's solo almost outpacing the band (lsd induced) and setting the tone for some of the turning points within the frame-work of the jam. However wonderful these moments are I can still hear a splitting of priorities of the jam from Pig, Bob, Jerry & Phil. How, you may ask? Because the song selection has lent the idea that Pig can only work his magic when the song comes back together- he fits in for the moment and then settles back into his organ (which, by the way, sounds hauntingly funeralistic at times) & he seems awkward in the delivery of his respective part to gel the formula Jerry & Phil are laying down; Bob sounds as though his confidence is building;(it may be me,but) he has always had a knack for keeping the vocal together even in the biggest screw-ups, like he anticipates(instinctively)& accepts the nature of his role within the jam too. I do believe the forces or the glue holding the whole furious thing together lies in Bill's pliability; he may be one of the craziest drummers to sit on the hot seat. This performance is mediocre at best, but brilliant because some new tools are being implemented & the hat has tricks in it that show them to be better than the average rock band-mediocrity aside. To bring a new member into the band at this point, is brave & maybe even a bit rash; but, no real progress was ever made without taking risks, so, Mickey will be the enforcer to Bill's domain(which still seems odd).
I'm not nitt-picking-I only want to give my take(opinion) on a band I've mostly experienced by recording. I've experienced the Dead only within the last 15 years & saw them in '93 & '94 & then after that it was all the incarnations of a scene mostly of fans trying to keep the fire lit, boy, what a scene.
Reviewer: pauliewalnuts - - November 19, 2009
Subject: Quayle was a total tool
Please, Dan Quayle was such an absolute tool. If you had a debate between Dan Quayle and Barack Obama. Obama would smoke his ass so bad its not even funny. Not hear to heap meritless praise on the man, but so much of the right wing hysteria against Obama is hysteria for hysteria's sake and reeks of McCarthyism. The right's hate-filled pundits, with their faux patriotism, fear mongering and hyprocracy, are all far less representative of the true American spirit of freedom than Obama. The hate they spew comes the same vile part of human nature that makes the Taliban and Al Queda what they are. If Michelle Malkin and Sean Hannity had been born in Afhganistan they would be throwing acid on women's faces, killing non-Muslims and burning cassette tapes. Extremism and hate is bad, whatever face it takes.
Reviewer: piker - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 23, 2009
Subject: Sorry, but I can't let Sedula's comment pass
Obama - Momentary slip of the tongue by a very intelligent and knowledgeable person.
Dan Quayle - Always, a drooling, gibbering simpleton.
Reviewer: Sedula - - October 2, 2009
Subject: GruBic is an idiot
Grubic said:"But remember Quayle?
p- o- t- a- t- o -e?? Classic..."

Everyone makes mistakes with spelling, but remember Obama saying he was going to visit all 57 states? That is a much bigger problem than mispelling a word. Like Quale or not, he knew there were 50 states in the Union! Obama apparently does not.
Reviewer: newdolorean - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 1, 2009
Subject: date????
I was just trying to cross reference some info, and dead.net has no indication of a show occuring on 10.22.67. Dead.net lists a Winterland on Halloween 10.31.67, but with no setlist to compare. Also, the previous show noted is 10.14.67 at The Continental Ballroom in Santa Clara. If someone knows the particular facts you should update dead.net or make an adjustment here.
I specifically love the years '67-'68,'73-74,'76-'77, '80-'81, '90-'91 and can't get enough of GD's propensity to evolve and this show classic represents that in stellar form*!

*I make this notation because The Grateful "Goddamn" Dead was better than any band at creating a new canvas and evolving from small mistakes or outright poor shows, as well. 4 stars because of the "Lovelight" cut. Sorry to sound perfectionistic, but with so many flawless recordings out there I save the 5 stars for those particular shows. (ie. another '67, Winterland from March 18th).
Reviewer: L. Rosley - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 7, 2008
Subject: A tight, well-executed, exciting show
This is a show I can listen to repeatedly. Not only high energy, but like the 1977 shows, tight – the band is playing together and without sloppiness, and all the vocals and harmonies are on target. Bob is good on Beat It, which wasn’t always the case during this period. Mickey Hart had only been playing with the Dead for a few weeks, but he and Bill are working smoothly together. (September 29 was Mickey’s first show.)

They start with a solid Morning Dew, followed by a great new Potato Caboose, which features not only a firey Jerry, but a Jerry and Phil counterpoint, with, Phil following Jerry’s lead. Listen to Phil here. Beat It and Cold Rain and Snow were “oldies” for them, having played it most of 1966, and they sound polished here.

Another oldie is It Hurts Me Too back, and Pigpen shows his master of the blues. Lovelight is gives us more high-energy Jerry, the usual great vocal and rap from Pigpen--the best vocalist the Dead ever had. Unfortunately, it’s cut off as things are getting going after a calm period.

The electric Jerry we hear on New Potato is also featured in Cryptical/Other One, which they had only recently started playing, when they hadn’t settled on the lyrics. There were also rehearsing it in the studio for the Anthem of the Sun, and it’s a crisp, freeform performance. It’s also an ensemble effort, lead by Jerry. Phil is great here as well. It simply smokes and is the highly of the show.

By this time the Dead had completed the reinvention of themselves from the Beatles pop/blues of 1966 to the unique psychedelia that proved the creative chops. It was one of several transformations they made over the years. The New Potato and Cryptical/Other One exemplify the psychedelic Dead, and are worth multiple listens. The psychedelic Dead isn’t just space—in fact, it’s mostly not space. It has underlying form and structure (with defined movements) and is melodic. I like the repetitive licks Jerry uses towards the end – the have a trance-inducing quality of the raves of the 1990’s –the Dead were all about Dance music, and they said so at the time and later.

The audio is great, with all of the instruments audible.
Reviewer: gruUbic - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 23, 2008
Subject: New Potatoe Caboose
We've lived through a LOT, sistas and bruthas...
but tonight brings us to 41 years ago -- exactly - to this show...

And the New Potato --
Uuuugh...how f*dging good is this ride?

We got an ELECTION comin in two weeks -- and I aint gettin all political...

But remember Quayle?
p- o- t- a- t- o -e??

Classic...

The boyz are sooo fun on this one...and that's it for the other one...
Bobby so young...
The Dew MEANT something back in 67...
and the Hurts? -- wooph --- so blues...thank you Pig.
Who can listen to this now and not shead a tear? well except for those born after the fall...

You cant spell fun w/o FU!
and you cant spell the DEAD w/o JerrBear...

Peace Love and Hippiness ---
Reviewer: Fin, jr. - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 24, 2008
Subject: OH MY GOD!!!
yeah, extraordinary.
Reviewer: sgtpepperoni00 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 29, 2007
Subject: Gotta Love it
Great Show! [[Highly Recomended]]


Cold Rain & Snow.. Fast and Powerful like it should be
Very very good Love Light. Has a bit of a different sound or something but it sounds fuckin amazing
gotta love The Other Ones.. Debut of the other ones set and what a debut it was. kick ass jam!

!!!
Reviewer: tomatoman66 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 16, 2007
Subject: scary lovelight
After a few hundred lovelights, i thought i'd heard them all, but o my god, this is the real deal, the mother of all lovelights. haven't heard the rest of show, but so far it is clearly A-1 5 star if you like clear, energetic, high powered, bad ass jerry and the dead at their young and hungry best. i need to find a VLB like this.
Reviewer: julbett - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 9, 2007
Subject: Wow
I was messing with google because I wanted to find out what happened on the exact day I was born and I fell onto this. I always loved the Dead.This show was impressive!
Reviewer: smgarcia - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 27, 2006
Subject: The Other One
The first The Other One. Thank goodness I am able to download this.
Reviewer: Randothemusicmando - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 14, 2006
Subject: Awesome
Liking this one a lot..too bad its streaming only.


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Reviewer: Triadtropz - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 14, 2006
Subject: incredible
I dont have any 67 in my personal stash..what a great show the caboose rocks!!
Reviewer: Goodonya - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 19, 2006
Subject: Blistering
This show is unbelievable. Just fucking fantastic. Download now. Thank you thank you thank you for offering it up .....
Reviewer: Dub Irie - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - December 28, 2005
Subject: Great Tape
This a a gem from 67 because there aren't a lot of 67s that have this continuity and convey the feel of the era so well.

Classic version of Lovelight. Shortest version of Beat It On Down the Line probably anywhere.
Reviewer: drewstar11 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 13, 2005
Subject: New Potato mashed my brain!!!!!!
This is one of the smokingest sets there is! This New Potato is among my favorite pieces of music (of course just a little behind the two form the vault masterpiece!) Make sure you can turn this up full throtle and pay full attention because this will absolutely grab ahold of you and take you for the ride of a lifetime!! Run don't walk to the stream icon now!!!!!!!!
Reviewer: KindRainbowBrother - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 10, 2005
Subject: First Mickey on Archive?
Well Mickey joined the band 9/29/67. Right? That would make this the earliest archive recording of Mickey playing with the band. I don't actually hear him, however, I am a bit confused. The hurts me too shows a bluesy side of Jerry that is more authentic than anything I have heard before. Great early versions of everything. Bobby sings rare early verses in the other one. Good sound, great jam=download it.
Reviewer: cardgamermanguy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 20, 2005
Subject: The Lovelight Is On
The show has its highs and lows in sound quality and Lovelight is at the top of it. One of the best performances of this song i've heard and Pigpen is singing great. They should have let him sing a hell of a lot more songs. Jerry solo is great.
Reviewer: phleshy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 14, 2005
Subject: Great early Dead!!!!
Wow, I just listened to this show and to say the least, I'm really surprised. Every song smokes and smokes. Especially the really fast early CR&S. There's a lot of great jamming, especially in the Lovelight (despite the cut), New Potato, and the That's it suite.

Speaking of that, the first-known performance of the That's It suite is a monster and is worth the download alone. It's a bit tentative in spots, especially Bobby's early lyrics about being taught things and heads not in sight, but it's 14:49 of pure energy that no Deadhead can be without.
Reviewer: oceantree - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 27, 2005
Subject: fuckin glorious
this show is exquisite- AND the sound quality is damn good for 67...please please take this show home and give it love...wonderful, alive versions of all these songs...GREAT crs...and a stunning, mind-bending Other One suite (trust me)...light your fires and put on some headphones- my my...
Reviewer: darqueCzar - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 18, 2005
Subject: pre-mellow rocking-ness
These songs have a lot of energy! Cold Rain and Snow is nice and fast like on the first LP. It's good psych music. I get tired of the extremely mellow, wistful "Black Peter" and "Wharf Rat" type songs. This is more visceral stuff. I love it! (So much that I registered on this site just to write this review!)
Reviewer: spleenboy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - February 12, 2005
Subject: duplicate entyr
Reviewer: Don Juan - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 29, 2005
Subject: October Surprise
What a high energy animal this concert recording is. Of course the sound problem at the beginning is a drag but the rest of it is a boogey. One of these days I'm going to improve my meditation skills and do some etheric traveling through time, find the winterland arena and hang around the stage and then just float above it all about 50 feet from the stage and take this show in. If you don't believe me then why do you think this show was as awesome as it sounds. I'm talking about a future event that will happen where I do that and send the dead all of this incredible energy. It's so pleasant listening to the fruits of my labor.
Reviewer: spleenboy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 18, 2005
Subject: sound quality
Hmmm, while not perfect, the sound quality is, for me, surprisingly clear (for its time).
It's a beautiful glimpse of their skyrocketing evolution, just before miraculous 1968, but more advanced than the historically critical early '65 and '66 material. Wow, grooooovy, man.
Reviewer: sheikyerbouti - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 8, 2004
Subject: Great
Sound is a bit dodgy though and there are some drop offs but the music is great!
Reviewer: Confusion's Prince - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - October 29, 2004
Subject: O BABY!!!!!
this show rocks man!!! Everyone has gotta download this one, especially for That's It For The Other One!!!! The best I've ever heard of the song. 5 stars just for that
Reviewer: MindBender65 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - August 24, 2004
Subject: NICE!
Killer set with great sound quality. The band's full of energy and pumping out some great music. Definately one of my favorite Other Ones. Gotta love Bobbys original lyrics for it. Another set would have been nice, but oh well. Get it.
Reviewer: magic mitch - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - August 7, 2004
Subject: Bust benifit
This was the bust benifit, Quicksilver and Big Brother were also there as was I think the first wide spread appearance of Owsley purple acid (more than the usual number of naked people running around) I think the purple contribuited to Jerry not being available for the second set as Bob W. put it, "Jerry blew it and won't be able to play", so Big Brother did three sets the last one was a classic and I wish there was a recording of it around somewhere.
Reviewer: Susep - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 5, 2004
Subject: Early Dead
Just as the Dead were beginning their Anthem period, check out It Hurts Me Too, classic Dead blues from this era
Reviewer: Grateful Steve - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - June 4, 2004
Subject: Early Energetic Dead
The Dead of 1967 have a great psychedelic sound. In this performance the energy is also great. The Lovelights is an amazingly energetic performance by Pigpen with a basic early jam.

This is one of the first performances of Other One with the story included of being busted by the heat for smiling on a sunny day. This refers to Bobby dropping a water balloon on a cops head from the third floor, after being busted earlier in the month for pot being in 710 - the Dead's home. Sound is good for this year.
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